The bat**** crazy left has hit a new low in trashing Project 2025. President Trump is distancing himself from it, saying he likes parts of it and dislikes parts of it. They're trying their best to hang it around his neck. A brief description of the 4 pillars has no mention of “Republican”, and I doubt there is one in the whole 900 pages. My Feeling is that it's just a conservative road map to that Shining City on the Hill.
I bet the farm on Mike Johnson & lost. Now I'm betting another farm on JD Vince. Sure hope I'm right. Here's my take if you're interested. If I win, we win Prez for the
next 12 years. Wouldn't it be cool if we renamed the GOP to the Conservative Party?
He’s being pragmatic. He hasn’t read 900 pages. There are probably some good ideas in there but the Left came out swinging. I heard about Project 2025 from my admittedly few, Democrat friends. It was the end of the world! Our freedoms will disappear!! I had never heard of this until the Democrats came out on their usual screeching platforms. The same people who said Trump didn’t read his PDBs claimed he not only read, but wrote a 900 page action plan.
Trump is pragmatic. He does what works. This will kneecap the Democrats. Similarly his position on abortion and IVF has my Catholic friends clutching their pearls. It’s not enough that their 50 year goal of overturning Roe was achieved by Trump’s appointments.
Aside from that JD Vance is clearly a populist. Someone pointed out his speech was devoid of mention of taxes and the usual Republican tropes. Trump wouldn’t have picked him if he thought Vance would turn into Paul Ryan.
I agree-Trump likes concise summaries and bullet points for clarity, although that’s obviously not his own speaking style! I very much doubt he’s read the thing. If it’s pragmatic, strategic distancing I can understand that, but if it’s rejection of the central aim (a radical shrinking of the administrative state) I consider that a mistake.
I think Trump is basically sidestepping Project 2025 as most of us are. I seriously doubt he knows what it is. The Left is in a lather about it and Trump is saying, “Whatever.”
It’s mainly about sacking thousands of permanent members of the administrative state, like closing down the Department of Education and scrapping other federal bureaucracies. Another reply posted a link to the full document.
Trump has the desire to do good things but I don’t think he has much in the way of clear vision , he’ll reduce the power of the deep state but not by much . RDS has a stronger commitment to positions of the right , and jdv too but selectively . Hopefully he can set them up to navigate an effective pathway
The person who has articulated what’s needed on this best is still Bannon in my view. De Santis did some good things in Florida but then let himself be used by globalists against Trump, a disastrous choice in my view.
Bannon has a sharp imaginative mind , some others around him did too . The Florida administration is way to the right of anything that Trump has pursued . I like Trump too and want revenge for the steal and many other things , he isn’t a true right winger though .. he can though pave the way
If you listen to Trump's entire, often boring, statement on Project 2025 and then look at the Republicans actual platform and his project 47, it seems like he's just trying to make a distinction between them since the media and Democrats are trying to (as usual, falsely) call the Heritage Project Trump's project instead.
Project 2025 should have been published with accompanying publicity to say what it was and where it came from. Instead it was thrown into the internet cesspool with no explanation at all, opening the door to linking the really radical ideas to Trump. It's almost as if the Lincoln Project is in charge of Project 2025.
It has a website and honest summaries from the Heritage Foundation I believe. I think the main problem is how extensive it is and that 900 pages gives plenty of room for critics to just make crap up, especially when they are as dishonest as Dems.
It’s strategic. He has a far better chance of getting elected as “just a guy with common sense” than as an ideologue who will turn the world upside down.
But elected by whom, then? Trump's massive support comes from our desire for dramatic action to set things right. Like Xavier Milea in Argentina. The world has already been "turned upside down" by the Fascist Left.
Why must all conservatives agree on everything or basically be called a traitor to the cause?? What has happened to individuality and freedom of thought? Why is Trump's disavowing of Project 2025 grounds for accusing him of "taking leftist reporting on what it contains seriously."? Can we not agree on a goal yet disagree on how to get there? I'm sad to see so many conservatives becoming just as hardline and uncompromising as the extreme leftists. We are in desperate need of a big dose of reality and common sense.
I think this is a huge error. I’m not asking for total purity-I am asking for a populist plan to deal with the administrative state and deep state and champions who won’t repeat ‘far right’ labelling bullshit about their strongest supporters. The dose of reality and common sense is they we HAVE to be hardline in terms of dismantling the networks of power that oppress us.
But will you still be supportive if it's not the way forward is not the Project 2025 plan? Do you see more than one way to achieve that goal? I'm not saying Trump is necessarily addressing the P2025 issue the best way. I'm simply saying there may be more than one way. Even as a conservative, I'm not sure I can support P2025 in it's entirety; but I'm also not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Yes, I’d support another way if it got to a similar destination. I’m not hide bound on it, I just think that a comprehensive plan for dismantling networks of globalist corruption is very important. If someone can plot out another one that’s better than I’d be foolish to reject that.
I have a high degree of confidence that Trump is all in on dismantling the Deep State but it may not be one of the issues on which he is focusing his campaign. 14.5% of Americans work for the government. Emphasizing the shrinking of their employer may not win votes.
The bat**** crazy left has hit a new low in trashing Project 2025. President Trump is distancing himself from it, saying he likes parts of it and dislikes parts of it. They're trying their best to hang it around his neck. A brief description of the 4 pillars has no mention of “Republican”, and I doubt there is one in the whole 900 pages. My Feeling is that it's just a conservative road map to that Shining City on the Hill.
I think your feeling is the correct one.
I bet the farm on Mike Johnson & lost. Now I'm betting another farm on JD Vince. Sure hope I'm right. Here's my take if you're interested. If I win, we win Prez for the
next 12 years. Wouldn't it be cool if we renamed the GOP to the Conservative Party?
https://paulmaj13.substack.com/p/more-on-project-2025😒
He’s being pragmatic. He hasn’t read 900 pages. There are probably some good ideas in there but the Left came out swinging. I heard about Project 2025 from my admittedly few, Democrat friends. It was the end of the world! Our freedoms will disappear!! I had never heard of this until the Democrats came out on their usual screeching platforms. The same people who said Trump didn’t read his PDBs claimed he not only read, but wrote a 900 page action plan.
Trump is pragmatic. He does what works. This will kneecap the Democrats. Similarly his position on abortion and IVF has my Catholic friends clutching their pearls. It’s not enough that their 50 year goal of overturning Roe was achieved by Trump’s appointments.
Aside from that JD Vance is clearly a populist. Someone pointed out his speech was devoid of mention of taxes and the usual Republican tropes. Trump wouldn’t have picked him if he thought Vance would turn into Paul Ryan.
I agree-Trump likes concise summaries and bullet points for clarity, although that’s obviously not his own speaking style! I very much doubt he’s read the thing. If it’s pragmatic, strategic distancing I can understand that, but if it’s rejection of the central aim (a radical shrinking of the administrative state) I consider that a mistake.
I think Trump is basically sidestepping Project 2025 as most of us are. I seriously doubt he knows what it is. The Left is in a lather about it and Trump is saying, “Whatever.”
If he’d stuck to whatever that would be fine. But he used the ‘extreme right’ crap that globalists use. That’s what worries me.
JD Vance has connections with globalists and that scares me! It doesn't look good, and I think we're getting played!
Interesting, it is the very first time i have heard of Project 2025. I'd like to know more please!
It’s mainly about sacking thousands of permanent members of the administrative state, like closing down the Department of Education and scrapping other federal bureaucracies. Another reply posted a link to the full document.
Thanks, Daniel.
Absolutely.
Trump has the desire to do good things but I don’t think he has much in the way of clear vision , he’ll reduce the power of the deep state but not by much . RDS has a stronger commitment to positions of the right , and jdv too but selectively . Hopefully he can set them up to navigate an effective pathway
The person who has articulated what’s needed on this best is still Bannon in my view. De Santis did some good things in Florida but then let himself be used by globalists against Trump, a disastrous choice in my view.
Bannon has a sharp imaginative mind , some others around him did too . The Florida administration is way to the right of anything that Trump has pursued . I like Trump too and want revenge for the steal and many other things , he isn’t a true right winger though .. he can though pave the way
If you listen to Trump's entire, often boring, statement on Project 2025 and then look at the Republicans actual platform and his project 47, it seems like he's just trying to make a distinction between them since the media and Democrats are trying to (as usual, falsely) call the Heritage Project Trump's project instead.
Project 2025 should have been published with accompanying publicity to say what it was and where it came from. Instead it was thrown into the internet cesspool with no explanation at all, opening the door to linking the really radical ideas to Trump. It's almost as if the Lincoln Project is in charge of Project 2025.
It has a website and honest summaries from the Heritage Foundation I believe. I think the main problem is how extensive it is and that 900 pages gives plenty of room for critics to just make crap up, especially when they are as dishonest as Dems.
It’s strategic. He has a far better chance of getting elected as “just a guy with common sense” than as an ideologue who will turn the world upside down.
I hope so. But it worries me.
But elected by whom, then? Trump's massive support comes from our desire for dramatic action to set things right. Like Xavier Milea in Argentina. The world has already been "turned upside down" by the Fascist Left.
Why must all conservatives agree on everything or basically be called a traitor to the cause?? What has happened to individuality and freedom of thought? Why is Trump's disavowing of Project 2025 grounds for accusing him of "taking leftist reporting on what it contains seriously."? Can we not agree on a goal yet disagree on how to get there? I'm sad to see so many conservatives becoming just as hardline and uncompromising as the extreme leftists. We are in desperate need of a big dose of reality and common sense.
I think this is a huge error. I’m not asking for total purity-I am asking for a populist plan to deal with the administrative state and deep state and champions who won’t repeat ‘far right’ labelling bullshit about their strongest supporters. The dose of reality and common sense is they we HAVE to be hardline in terms of dismantling the networks of power that oppress us.
But will you still be supportive if it's not the way forward is not the Project 2025 plan? Do you see more than one way to achieve that goal? I'm not saying Trump is necessarily addressing the P2025 issue the best way. I'm simply saying there may be more than one way. Even as a conservative, I'm not sure I can support P2025 in it's entirety; but I'm also not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Yes, I’d support another way if it got to a similar destination. I’m not hide bound on it, I just think that a comprehensive plan for dismantling networks of globalist corruption is very important. If someone can plot out another one that’s better than I’d be foolish to reject that.
I have a high degree of confidence that Trump is all in on dismantling the Deep State but it may not be one of the issues on which he is focusing his campaign. 14.5% of Americans work for the government. Emphasizing the shrinking of their employer may not win votes.
If it’s just strategic like that I can understand it.
Good point. I just hope that's his reason.