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Cara Wakefield's avatar

Makes sense when you think of it. The West's killed individuals. Starmer and his buds are killing a nation. An empire and a storied one at that.

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Carl Nelson's avatar

How could it be said better?

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Jupplandia's avatar

Do you mean my article, or do you mean could we say how we detest Labour better than by petitions?

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ExposeTheFakes's avatar

I think he means

cannot be improved upon

flawless

you nailed it

bloody brilliant

or any number of other phrases

And he's right!

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Jupplandia's avatar

Thank you very much. 😀

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Carl Nelson's avatar

Your article quite "nailed it".

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Writing the Wrong's avatar

Such widespread derision of this Labour government was always an inevitability. Starmer "won" the election only because the British people punished the Conservatives for 14 years of breaking promises they made to us on our most important issues. Only a fool would conclude that we wanted what Labour offered. But of course, Starmer came in and claimed a mandate to govern in exactly the fashion for which we rejected Sunak and his party. It was only going to end this way. And end it shall, but only after 4 more ruinous years.

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Jupplandia's avatar

Absolutely right, and god knows what level of additional damage they will inflict in those four years.

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kay's avatar

Throughout my lifetime liberals have been the most hateful and violent group while conservatives have been the most sensible. Whether in Great Britain or America that has always held true. Here and maybe there now the left has been pushed too far left and is finally waking up to the realization that these aren't their values, their wants, their needs.

A tiny handful of people, globalists, some politicians, and journalists are the only true promoters of any of this. Not the citizens. In America our Senate is about to find out since they have elected the worst leader and he is appointing the worst candidates. None of those senators are going to be reelected.

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Jupplandia's avatar

I agree. The people who actually want this stuff are a small minority overall, but a significant majority of the ruling class. That’s the problem. It’s like being under foreign occupation. The capacity of Republican Senators to ignore what Republican voters want is a perfect example of it.

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

Re: “Labour have one of the largest majorities in history, secured with 80% of people NOT voting for them.”

How does this happen?!

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Jupplandia's avatar

A split in the vote of the Right between Conservatives and Reform, the idiocies of the first past the post system, and tactical voting from the parties of the Left.

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Stuffysays's avatar

Yup!

However, I'm not sure the Labour Party hates the British public. I don't think they give us much thought. We are a mere abstract idea, an illusion, a vaguely seen mass moving outside their field of vision. The money they spaff around on vanity projects is not "real" money - nobody in government actually handles any notes or coins. It's just numbers on a spreadsheet to be divvied up. As the people are not important and the money is not visible, it really doesn't matter what they are actually doing to us because we are not real to them. Saving The Planet or Rescuing the Persecuted Foreigners or Supporting Ukraine Against the Hitler-Putin are great abstract ideas which don't involve any real people or real money because politicians don't know any real people or use any of their own actual money.

So, what's the solution? Uprising? Revolution? Civil War (although that would be pointless as only the limp-wristed Guardian reader would be opposing us!)?

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Jupplandia's avatar

Well expressed, and yes there is a strong element of simply never encountering real life and real people. But I don’t think that rules out the hate. The British political elite are exactly like their American counterparts. They see us in the same manner as deplorables and Nazis. Gordon Brown was hardly the most woke of Labour figures, but when he encountered an ordinary Labour voter who complained about mass immigration he was revolted, she was a “horrible bigoted woman”. That’s how they view all of us.

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Richard Ruggiero's avatar

Is England committing suicide or is it being murdered?

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Jupplandia's avatar

Both, a murder, and suicidal complacency while it’s happening.

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Karl Schafer-Junger's avatar

Here Here...Go Again!

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JMButler's avatar

Easy for you to say, Alexander Scipio. British people tend to like the rule of law as a general precept. If you ignore the law, there is absolutely nowhere to turn for any sort of justice. Anarchy won't help us. But we are being pushed now and the government is about to find out what sheer abandonment is about. Labour MPs are afraid to hold surgeries now. That is a large part of their job. How can they carry on without having any contact with the public? Westminster exists in a vacuum, sure, but what happens when we also extract the oxygen and they have no idea what the mood is, apart from aggressively against? Very disquieting, and some MPs will resign through fear. Enough to make a General Election the next step, ideally. I hope so.

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Alexander Scipio's avatar

So do something about it. Since it’s obvious that judicial remedies are off the table, the choice seems to be between destruction and extra-judicial remedies. Your choice, Britain…

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Jupplandia's avatar

Unfortunately there’s about the same level of will for that as there was in the US when you were suffering an illegally installed Biden administration. Most people stay fairly law abiding until they are starving.

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