You list all the points that rational people were thinking of when voting this time.
I only wish we'd all been involved and not just a limited number of counties, because that would have meant Labour would have been completely annihilated at a local level.
Then even Starmer, with his shaky grip on reality and consequences, might have removed his head out of where it's currently residing and taken notice.
Not to be unbearably picky ... but if only 37% of the population voted, that leaves 63% unengaged.
Thanks Patricia. That’s very much what I would like to see. At the moment though everyone send to think Reform are the only alternative to the main parties.
I'm guessing you're an American and unfamiliar with today's Britain? From the outside, it looks as if the majority of Brits are apathetic or resigned. As someone with a foot in both camps, I can't think of anyone with the charisma of a Trump in the UK with the drive and love of country he projects. Brits on the whole are not susceptible to be so passionately roused as Americans and generally prefer to leave action to others (I know only too well from my years of involvement with the anti-EU campaign) and this leads to their failure to recognize the pace of change and need for action now, not next week. The only passion one sees on British streets today seems to come from those who represent the horrifying future that inaction will bring about.
I agree with you about Farage. Aka ‘ a big girl’s blouse ( if you know the expression) so not serious in the long term. However I do think this is interesting because it shows people that the two party status quo system is finished. It primes the imagination of people who will be watching to see how this plays out. Starmer hasn’t really understood any of this- after all his comments on accelerating change means nothing and most people imagine it means increased boat invasions; more wars etc. Reform is still a company controlled by Farage and Yusef. Time will tell if Reform can deliver locally. But it has opened space for alternative options in the national politic.
You perfectly describe exactly how I feel. My friend yesterday was very chipper about the gains ReformUK had made in the elections. I decided to play along as I'm conscious of coming across as a constantly negative, depressive joy-thief. I'm deeply disappointed, nay, disgusted by Farage's treatment of Rupert Lowe, the best of men. The lot of them, Tice and Lee Anderson as well. I had no expectations of the chairman. The future looks bleak with absolutely no saving grace discernable.
If Trump and his stated policies hadn’t won-out here in the US, we would have been faced with what, I imagine, approximates to what you folks in the UK are now yourselves facing. Godspeed, friends
Hello from Australia, where the Labor govt was yesterday handed another three years in office because the main right wing party was just a watered down socialism.
The poor bastards who moved here from the UK recently to get away from the frying pan of Starmer's Labour have landed in the fire of Starmer's biggest fan, Anthony Albanese, who contests David Lammy and AOC for the Anglosphere's dumbest politician.
Unfortunately, I think you've nailed it, again. One has to wonder what causes a people to be so unaware of their current and future predicament. Is it something in the water???
Too many benefits and brainwashing about how awful we are as a nation and the rise of political correctness 20 or so years ago stopped any political discourse. Only MSM could say how we should think.
Can't disagree with a word of this. Sums it up perfectly.
I voted Reform at the last election, but I have serious doubts about voting for them again after the events of the last 6-8 months, which then will leave me politically homeless. Again.
Excellent analysis of the UK elections. I see how again the lack of written constitution, especially 1st and 2nd amendments, differentiates UK from US and populist movements.
That’s a valid point. The 1st was being suppressed already and thankfully it was restored only by Elon purchasing Tweeter. The 2nd was never tested and this the big unknown. Here, you could be correct because the “normie” (populist, conservative) side, predominantly obeys the laws and it is not in the streets.
I usually agree with you, but not on this. Farage is regarded as too extreme by many. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, though, so we will have to wait and see. Causing division is very unhelpful, and that is all Lowe has achieved.
You assign the blame incorrectly. The Reform leadership caused the rift with Lowe, then used disgusting tactics to try and smear and destroy him. They created division, not his or my recognition of that.
I don’t believe they caused it. I think there was a problem with Lowe from what I saw; I would have been troubled too by what he wrote. They didn’t seem to handle it well, though, I agree.
Exactly. Sarah assigns the blame incorrectly. Farage and his Muslim conspirators picked the fight with Lowe, not the other way round. Farage refused to discuss Lowe’s concerns or meet with him, then they orchestrated a fake bullying scandal as an excuse to oust him.
Good article!
You list all the points that rational people were thinking of when voting this time.
I only wish we'd all been involved and not just a limited number of counties, because that would have meant Labour would have been completely annihilated at a local level.
Then even Starmer, with his shaky grip on reality and consequences, might have removed his head out of where it's currently residing and taken notice.
Not to be unbearably picky ... but if only 37% of the population voted, that leaves 63% unengaged.
Yes, silly error, I’ll correct. The drawbacks of writing in a hurry. 😀
37% turnout for election?
I've never heard of Rupert Lowe, but now, I'll check him out. It seems like he's the man with a plan. Got kicked out of a party? Smh.
Create a New party with Lowe as your candidate for office.
*** Make it "too big to rig". (Trump came up with that phrase).
EVERYONE come out to vote for Lowe. Let's go!
Thanks Patricia. That’s very much what I would like to see. At the moment though everyone send to think Reform are the only alternative to the main parties.
I'm increasingly seeing Reform under Farage and Yusuf as the globalist, left-wing continuation party.
They may occasionally make some of the right noises, but not enough. Farage can't be trusted, either by the electorate or by his members.
I'm guessing you're an American and unfamiliar with today's Britain? From the outside, it looks as if the majority of Brits are apathetic or resigned. As someone with a foot in both camps, I can't think of anyone with the charisma of a Trump in the UK with the drive and love of country he projects. Brits on the whole are not susceptible to be so passionately roused as Americans and generally prefer to leave action to others (I know only too well from my years of involvement with the anti-EU campaign) and this leads to their failure to recognize the pace of change and need for action now, not next week. The only passion one sees on British streets today seems to come from those who represent the horrifying future that inaction will bring about.
Sad commemtary on UK politics, it kinda sounds like the US under Biden.
Here's the thing, in 2021 no one would have thought Trump could come back as strong as he did.
I have some hope for misguided governments that are not following the will of their people.
It does give some hope and a good example. All we need is someone with money and courage to follow the Trump example.
Maybe Farage will be inspired by the US.
But considering the electoral reversal for the conservatives in Canada, Trump might not yet be a good thing for sanity elsewhere.
If he succeeds, in 4 years, everyone will be following his playbook.
But Trump was still Trump a known quantity.
Farage is no Trump. He's more a RINO....
I agree with you about Farage. Aka ‘ a big girl’s blouse ( if you know the expression) so not serious in the long term. However I do think this is interesting because it shows people that the two party status quo system is finished. It primes the imagination of people who will be watching to see how this plays out. Starmer hasn’t really understood any of this- after all his comments on accelerating change means nothing and most people imagine it means increased boat invasions; more wars etc. Reform is still a company controlled by Farage and Yusef. Time will tell if Reform can deliver locally. But it has opened space for alternative options in the national politic.
At least a new Reform Mayor has the courage to say the dinghy invaders should be put in tents.
Perhaps there will be a coup within Reform at some point and the Farage caliphist faction will be kicked out.
Shame she didn't add that the tents should be in France...
It all feels very bleak, but the great breaks come from where we aren't looking. Trump is an example.
Yes, he gives hope even merely as an example.
You perfectly describe exactly how I feel. My friend yesterday was very chipper about the gains ReformUK had made in the elections. I decided to play along as I'm conscious of coming across as a constantly negative, depressive joy-thief. I'm deeply disappointed, nay, disgusted by Farage's treatment of Rupert Lowe, the best of men. The lot of them, Tice and Lee Anderson as well. I had no expectations of the chairman. The future looks bleak with absolutely no saving grace discernable.
If Trump and his stated policies hadn’t won-out here in the US, we would have been faced with what, I imagine, approximates to what you folks in the UK are now yourselves facing. Godspeed, friends
Hello from Australia, where the Labor govt was yesterday handed another three years in office because the main right wing party was just a watered down socialism.
The poor bastards who moved here from the UK recently to get away from the frying pan of Starmer's Labour have landed in the fire of Starmer's biggest fan, Anthony Albanese, who contests David Lammy and AOC for the Anglosphere's dumbest politician.
Unfortunately, I think you've nailed it, again. One has to wonder what causes a people to be so unaware of their current and future predicament. Is it something in the water???
Too many benefits and brainwashing about how awful we are as a nation and the rise of political correctness 20 or so years ago stopped any political discourse. Only MSM could say how we should think.
Media.
Unless you're on alternative media for your news, you're badly misinformed.
Can't fault this analysis....
It appears Starmer has not quite mastered the art of reading the room. How obtuse can one get?
Can't disagree with a word of this. Sums it up perfectly.
I voted Reform at the last election, but I have serious doubts about voting for them again after the events of the last 6-8 months, which then will leave me politically homeless. Again.
Excellent analysis of the UK elections. I see how again the lack of written constitution, especially 1st and 2nd amendments, differentiates UK from US and populist movements.
Had Harris "won" the election, the 1st and 2nd Amendments wouldn't have helped...
That’s a valid point. The 1st was being suppressed already and thankfully it was restored only by Elon purchasing Tweeter. The 2nd was never tested and this the big unknown. Here, you could be correct because the “normie” (populist, conservative) side, predominantly obeys the laws and it is not in the streets.
I usually agree with you, but not on this. Farage is regarded as too extreme by many. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, though, so we will have to wait and see. Causing division is very unhelpful, and that is all Lowe has achieved.
You assign the blame incorrectly. The Reform leadership caused the rift with Lowe, then used disgusting tactics to try and smear and destroy him. They created division, not his or my recognition of that.
I don’t believe they caused it. I think there was a problem with Lowe from what I saw; I would have been troubled too by what he wrote. They didn’t seem to handle it well, though, I agree.
Causing division is today's political playbook.
Or did Nigel /Mohamed Zia cause the division??
Exactly. Sarah assigns the blame incorrectly. Farage and his Muslim conspirators picked the fight with Lowe, not the other way round. Farage refused to discuss Lowe’s concerns or meet with him, then they orchestrated a fake bullying scandal as an excuse to oust him.
One can call it "causing division " and another may call it "Self Preservation " ...
It's a .. difficult subject to talk about but .. it's gotta be talked about.
I really hope that a man can step up .. and start to turn your ship around. England must prevail.