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kay's avatar

I recently had a shot in my knee that begin to bleed rather dramatically. The physician's assistant who gave me the shot grabbed some gauze to soak up the blood and as I'm watching it oozing out over the bandages she said to me "I think it's stopping." My first thought was she must be a liberal. They're always asking us to believe something contrary to the evidence in front of our own eyes.

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Jupplandia's avatar

That’s a very apt example. 👍

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kay's avatar

I was having a conversation with a once intelligent friend and found I simply had to point out that just 4 years ago he knew that the only way to get a virus was to be exposed to someone else with a virus. In two short years he came to believe that someone who was healthy but hadn't had a shot was going to make him sick. Even though he and his wife had all the shots and boosters, they have both had covid since then, and yet he still believes that people should get this shot that doesn't work. I think I'm bringing him around finally.

There is no longer any common sense. Fewer people listen to what's being said, look at what's being done, and decide for themselves what they think about it and what they want to do about it.

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Jupplandia's avatar

It’s astonishing and as you say common sense or basic logic would have told people they were being lied to.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

My choir leader just had to warn us, a couple of times, that because she'd just been on a cruise, that she might be *contagious*! Here is an otherwise intelligent woman, nearly 5 years later, perpetuating such ridiculousnous. It's relevant here as a banal but not insignificant indicator of the tenacity of lies, which have worked in concert with the degradation of all moral values, to all but assure our collective demise.

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Jupplandia's avatar

Once that hysteria is generated, it becomes very difficult to get people to admit they were fooled. They cling to the lie as a reassurance of their own good judgement.

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Bettina's avatar

My super intelligent biology teacher friend assured me the other day that the cold she had, as we had breakfast together, "was not covid, don't worry". I don't know if my raised eyebrow communicated my feelings properly.

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Alison H.'s avatar

Bravo! Yet so many are still brainwashed and oblivious. We tried to tell people, we tried to stop them from getting the quackcine, but most didn't listen...we are nothing but "conspiracy theorists"...

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Jupplandia's avatar

Thanks. We did, but I think even those of us who warned against it still end up acting as if things are normal. Otherwise there would have been a mass rising up by now.

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Alison H.'s avatar

No, not all...some of us stood outside every Saturday at plazas and farmer's markets with our signs and information...we gathered each other...we tried to stop parents from vaxing their kids at schools and other places....but were maligned...we went to city council and board of health meetings...we call legislators and sign petitions...some listen. We still meet often...and there are the state health freedom groups. Many groups are connected to each other.

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Bettina's avatar

Your brilliant exposition of the state we are in makes me think of that old Stalin quote that one death is a tragedy but a million is a statistic. As individuals most of humanity lacks the ability to see the big picture, being blinded by the exigencies of day to day living. We fiddle with the sat nav whilst driving, failing to notice that we are heading for the cliff edge.

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Rob Kay's avatar

Muggeridge was such a bore!

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Jupplandia's avatar

Rob, may I ask why you wish to comment on my articles? You clearly come from a totally different perspective. That's fair enough. Personally, I don't spend a lot of time commenting on the opposite politics to mine on Substack. Its pretty fruitless, especially so when you only offer insult level responses to either the writer or a person the writer is referencing. What is a comment like this supposed to achieve? Am I supposed to think Muggeridge was wrong, now?

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Rob Kay's avatar

You write very well - I have no idea what your politics are, and I don't suppose you know what mine are either.

I don't thing blogs should just be an echo chamber of people who share identical views - that makes them very dull! Muggeridge was a perfectly horrid man - have you seen his conversation with John Cleese about 'The Life of Brian' - on Youtube - his views are hilarious! But I don't suppose many people remember him now.

GK Chesterton - now he is much more my kind of author.

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Jupplandia's avatar

Thanks, and no I haven't seen that Cleese interview. My feelings on something like that are ambivalent-I love a lot of the most irreverent humor there is (Goon Show and Spike M, Cook & Moore, Cleese and the Monty Python team). I used to really like Dave Allen too. So I get laughing at religion and i get that the old society could be humorless and pompous. Its interesting as well that some of the old rebels are now horrified by the New Puritan aspects of things like wokeness. So all that would make me side with them. That said things have got so bad since we abandoned our religious heritage that I see much more of a solid point being made by the Muggeridges and Mary Whitehouses of the past.

Glad we agree on Chesterton at least.

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Rob Kay's avatar

https://fb.watch/uZ7IQ3LB_Z/ heres the link - its the key moments condensed of a 1 hr programme.

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